Past Sandy Cove Residents Association
Sandy Cove Residents Association. Sandy Cove Residents Association. Working with the Community. Photos of the estate.Community Skips. New Photo of Sandy Cove 2012. Email To A Friend. 31 Clwyd Gardens, Kinmel Bay, Conwy. For emailing the town council. Working With The Community Here In Wales. A Little about the Association. The Sandy Cove Residents Association is a Voluntary group made up of the local residents that are elected onto the committee every year at their AGMs, by the local residents from the estate. It was first formed with the intentions of improving the environment and general well being of the local residents and the visitors to the estate. The Committee consists of a Chairperson, Secretary, Treasurer and a Vicechair person. There are also six other members of the committee. We are however fortunate to hav a local town Councillor as our secretary. The Association has adopted the Motto (Working With The Community). Which they feel is how they should operate as a whole. The Association hold their committee meeting on a monthly basis though recently they have opted for bi-momthly meetings. these meetings are open to the residents to attend if desired. We also hold an AGM every February where the residents can re-elected the existing committee as a whole or elect a full new committee. Our Location In North Wales. The Sandy Cove Estate is in Kinmel Bay Situated between Rhyl and Abergele on the North Wales Coast. The Estate is built by the beach and consists of 250 bungalows that were built in the 1930s by the Kinmel Estates Ltd, who sadly went into liquidation around 1947 before the estate was completed. This left the estate with only dirt tracks for roads with no sidewalks or pavements, no drainage for surface water or any adequate street lighting. After the liquidation of the company the roads and communal greens were escheated to the Crown who then offered the land free of charge to successive Councils for the to incorperate into the towns that were developing. This was refused by the Councils. The Roads on Sandy Cove. As can be imagined, the main concerns of the local residentson the Sandy Cove estate are the unadopted roads, that over the years are getting worse and full of pot-holes that are bad at any time of year but in the winter months they are treacherous to venture along. Thes pot-holes fill with surface water and then freeze over in the winter. As there are no footpaths, this makes it very difficult for the residents whom are mainly elderly and many disabled in mobility scooters and chairs. Even trying to get to the local corner shop can be a danger to them that many will not venture outside their front door in winter for fear of accidents. The association try their hardest to maintain the roads by supplying and assisting with the laying of stones and gravel to fill in the pot-holes but this only lasts for a couple of months as the stones and gravel gets either washed out or thrown out by uncaring motorists speeding along the roads. This of course is a costly practice and the only money that the association has for funding is from the donations of the residents themselves. The Association gets no outside help from any local authority. This is partly to do with the cost of adopting the roads would cost millions of pounds to make proper roads with pavements and adequate street lighting. The local council can not raise this kind of money. so it is up to the local residents to find what money they can from fund raising events or donating from their own pockets and purses. Another of the associations concerns is that even when there is enough in the funds to pay for some repairs, it is a daunting task trying to find enough vounteers to carry out the work involved on the estate. This is sad because most of the residents who are ready to volunteer are the sick elderly and in many cases disabled people, the same people that the association are trying to assist. ( Their hearts are strong but their boddies are
Estate in Kinmel Bay cursed by poor roads 2010
Estate in Kinmel Bay cursed by poor roads
00:00, 18 March 2010
By North Wales Daily Post
A CAMPAIGN to improve the pavements and roads in Sandy Cove in Kinmel Bay is still being fought – after 40 years
... Cllr Ken Stone claims there are no pavements on the estate, and some of the paths are just gravel.
As the land is owned by a private charity, the £3.5m needed to make the improvements seems out of reach.
“It’s been carrying on for about 40 years now,” said Cllr Stone.
“About 80% of the people who live on the estate are elderly and the conditions are not suitable for them.”
He added: “There’s no pavements and the paths are just gravel. We always have residents falling and having accidents. In some cases there have been broken bones.”
The 250-house estate was built in the 1930s. The land is owned by the Towyn and Kinmel Bay Community Association. As it is not council land, coming across a solution has been difficult.
A 2005 survey estimated that the improvement work would cost around £3.5 million.
“The residents do a lot of fundraising. They just spent £2,000 filling pot holes themselves,” said Cllr Stone.
“But this type of work doesn't last and as soon as the rain comes it gets washed away. It’s a fabulous community and a shame they have to suffer like this.”
A meeting was recently held between councillors and deputy housing minister Jocelyn Davies to discuss possible solutions.
Cllr John Bevan believes it is good that the Assembly is now looking into the problem.
“The potential cost of the work is so high that it is positive to have authorities putting it on their agenda,” he said.
AM Darren Millar was also at the meeting, and said: “Residents should not have to put up with these conditions in the 21st century, especially the many on the estate with mobility and other health problems.
“We need action, not just warm words, from the Assembly Government – unless they can support the work that needs to be done to improve the roads, it is very unlikely we will see any change on the estate.”
Bill Dawson, chair of the residents’ association, is hopeful that a solution will be found soon.
“Politicians should have taken up this issue a long time ago.
“I hope to put this at the top of my priorities.”
00:00, 18 March 2010
By North Wales Daily Post
A CAMPAIGN to improve the pavements and roads in Sandy Cove in Kinmel Bay is still being fought – after 40 years
... Cllr Ken Stone claims there are no pavements on the estate, and some of the paths are just gravel.
As the land is owned by a private charity, the £3.5m needed to make the improvements seems out of reach.
“It’s been carrying on for about 40 years now,” said Cllr Stone.
“About 80% of the people who live on the estate are elderly and the conditions are not suitable for them.”
He added: “There’s no pavements and the paths are just gravel. We always have residents falling and having accidents. In some cases there have been broken bones.”
The 250-house estate was built in the 1930s. The land is owned by the Towyn and Kinmel Bay Community Association. As it is not council land, coming across a solution has been difficult.
A 2005 survey estimated that the improvement work would cost around £3.5 million.
“The residents do a lot of fundraising. They just spent £2,000 filling pot holes themselves,” said Cllr Stone.
“But this type of work doesn't last and as soon as the rain comes it gets washed away. It’s a fabulous community and a shame they have to suffer like this.”
A meeting was recently held between councillors and deputy housing minister Jocelyn Davies to discuss possible solutions.
Cllr John Bevan believes it is good that the Assembly is now looking into the problem.
“The potential cost of the work is so high that it is positive to have authorities putting it on their agenda,” he said.
AM Darren Millar was also at the meeting, and said: “Residents should not have to put up with these conditions in the 21st century, especially the many on the estate with mobility and other health problems.
“We need action, not just warm words, from the Assembly Government – unless they can support the work that needs to be done to improve the roads, it is very unlikely we will see any change on the estate.”
Bill Dawson, chair of the residents’ association, is hopeful that a solution will be found soon.
“Politicians should have taken up this issue a long time ago.
“I hope to put this at the top of my priorities.”
Report from 2005
CABINET 8 November 2005 SANDY COVE KINMEL BAY Summary of Report: It was agreed in Cabinet on 22 March 2005 to commission a feasibility study on the most effective means of estimating the overall cost of bringing the estate roads up to adoption standard. Recommendations: Further consideration of this matter is deferred until the feasibility is completed and can be considered so that Cabinet can eventually evaluate the implications for this Council. Contact Officer: Ken Finch E-mail: [email protected] Background Papers: Council Minute. Internal memos. Environmental Statement: This report does not contravene the Council’s Agenda 21 policies. Community Safety Implications: This report does not contravene the Council’s Crime and Disorder Strategy. Financial Implications: This report does not identify any financial implications at the moment. Personnel Implications: None. Human Rights Issues: This report has been audited for potential breaches of Articles in the European Convention on Human Rights. Any breach or breaches, and any justification for such breach or breaches, are indicated in the report itself or in the addendum to the report. Dated: 14 October 2005 (CTTEES05: REP-059) 1 REPORT TO: CABINET DATE: 8 NOVEMBER 2005 DIRECTORATE
Feasibility Report 2005
24th MARCH 2005
FEASIBILITY REPOT FOR THE UPGRADING OF THE PRIVATE ESTATE ROADS IN SANDY COVE, KINMEL BAY
Report:
Subject to an earlier request the Highways Department has been in discussions with two local
Engineering Consultants to determine the most effective means of estimating the overall cost
of bringing the estates road on the Sandy Cove development up to a standard of construction
whereby the County Borough Council would adopt them.
As a result of these deliberations a specification for a feasibility study has been drawn up and
consequently we have now received two quotations.
The quotations are:
Company A - £5000 (inc. topographical survey) plus VAT plus cost of site investigation
Company B – £9590 plus VAT plus cost of topographical survey and site investigation.
It is estimated that the cost of the Site Investigations to be approximately £2000.
The scope of these works would include limited site assessment, enquiries into type of
services (drains etc.) at present on site, topographical survey (levelling etc.), supervision of
additional site investigation and preliminary basic road and drainage design.
On completion of the study the consultant would then provide a report on the feasibility of the
works and a priced Schedule of Works.
Please note that the above quotations do not include for detail design or a full geotechnical
survey, but it is considered that the final report will give sufficient information with regards to
the anticipated costs of the scheme
The Report was presented to the Sandy Cove Task & Finish Group on Monday 7th March
2005. Following discussions the Group made the following resolutions:
(a) That Company A be awarded the contract for the work, subject to the funding being available. (b) That the Town Council be approached to provide £4,400 of the funding for the feasibility study.
(c) That the Sandy Cove Residents Association provide £600 of the funding for the feasibility study.
(d) That the Chair of the Sandy Cove Task and Finish Group approach Cabinet
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